tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post2838305453445212437..comments2024-01-31T12:49:08.701-08:00Comments on STL Rising: Busch Stadium -- It Was Built!Rick Bonaschhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10825477678253483191noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post-31799794893649024032008-05-30T21:05:00.000-07:002008-05-30T21:05:00.000-07:00No, had the Cardinals written off the city like so...No, had the Cardinals written off the city like so many other citizens, we'd have a hole downtown alright, a whole lot of nothing!<BR/><BR/>As easy as it is to make the case that the Cardinals should have stayed in North St. Louis, the same case can be made that the team's move downtown was a signal to corporate St. Louis that downtown St. Louis mattered!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post-89858942911381768442008-05-30T17:54:00.000-07:002008-05-30T17:54:00.000-07:00Yeah we might have an interesting neighborhood the...Yeah we might have an interesting neighborhood there now rather than a mudhole surrounded by parking garages. Plus another part of town might have benefited from several decades of baseball fans. Had Busch stayed on North Grand that area would not have seen the disinvestment that it has. Razing so much of downtown in the 1960s was a very bad decision that we are just now starting to recover from. We must learn from past mistakes so we don't repeat them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post-6597117496553092872008-05-30T07:06:00.000-07:002008-05-30T07:06:00.000-07:00Righto Chris. Some of my favorite old Chinese est...Righto Chris. Some of my favorite old Chinese establishments are in the Gold Rush towns of Northern California.<BR/><BR/>Many of them are still open today. Travel along Highway 49 in the Sierra foothills, and you pass through many towns from the 1850s. Places like Angels Camp, Calaveras, Sonora, and Auburn. <BR/><BR/>In all of them there are ususally two or three, sometimes more, historic Chinese businesses.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.understandingrace.org/history/society/manifest_destiny.html" REL="nofollow">The Chinese opening businesses were smart</A>. They were some of the only ones to actually survive the Gold Rush!Rick Bonaschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10825477678253483191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post-6845551822609824352008-05-30T06:01:00.000-07:002008-05-30T06:01:00.000-07:00Neighborhoods definitely come and go; San Francisc...Neighborhoods definitely come and go; San Francisco's Chinatown was originally Italian, if I remember correctly.<BR/><BR/>In my experience, small Chinatowns tend to wither and die on their own. --witness Washington, DC's.<BR/><BR/>What would have come of Hop Alley? Who knows.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064334959354090683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post-64727568397920142482008-05-29T13:01:00.000-07:002008-05-29T13:01:00.000-07:00Sorry Steve, The headline must have worked because...Sorry Steve, <BR/><BR/>The headline must have worked because it was intended to work as a misdirection. Personally, I'm very happy Busch II was built, and Busch III.<BR/><BR/>Last night, I didn't have tickets to the ballgame, but stopped into one of the downtown restaurants (newly updated) for a beer after work. The place was packed with baseball fans.<BR/><BR/>The real point I was trying to make with the post was that as a community we need to move forward together rather than beat ourselves up over years' old decisions. <BR/><BR/>Imagine if you were sitting at a table in the restaurant I was in last night, surrounded by baseball fans, and someone proclaimed, "they never should have built Busch Stadium downtown." It would sound like crazy talk. <BR/><BR/>Think how the self-doubt discussions about St. Louis sound to newcomers. Not very good.Rick Bonaschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10825477678253483191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14698828.post-53800872973289824652008-05-29T08:11:00.000-07:002008-05-29T08:11:00.000-07:00OMG, I agree with you! But hey that was St Louis ...OMG, I agree with you! But hey that was St Louis looking to other cities for ideas --- all were destroying their downtowns and relocating things like stadiums in the new versions. <BR/><BR/>St Louis actually bucked the trend in the same period by renovating an old theatre on Grand for the symphony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com